Thank you all for patiently answering my question. I have decided to buy the Debug Express, and I plan to build a removable ZIF socket too. On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Funny NYPD wrote: > Most of the PIC18Fs and some PIC16Fs support ICD. There is some low-pin number base family need a special converter-board for ICD. For those PIC18F chips with internal oscillator, you can probably just use a breadboard or Zif to program and debug some codes. > > We never buy the converter-board for 12F508, just program the chip and see how it goes. So far, it works great. > > Funny N. > Au Group Electronics, New Bedford, MA, http://www.AuElectronics.com > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Christopher Head > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:32:41 PM > Subject: Re: [PIC] Confusion over PICkit 2 Starter Kit and the Debug Express > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > Just a comment in case the OP doesn't realize this, but you don't *need* > the Debug Express version in order to do in-circuit debugging with the > PICkit2. All PICkit2s can do in-circuit debugging, even the bare > programmer without any demo board at all (that's what I bought). You > might not be able to do ICD on the non-debug-express demo board (I don't > know), but you *can* use the PICkit2 for ICD on your own circuits. > > Chris > > Xiaofan Chen wrote: > [snip] > | If you need the debugging functionality, you should get the debug > | express version. I will think that is the better version out there. > | But some people like the starter kit since they can easily replace > | the chip (Through hole). Some of the people even soldered a > | ZIF socket on the starter kit. > [snip] > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) > Comment: GnuPT 2.7.2 > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFID8cYiD2svb/jCb4RAiwAAJ4yhLUN6TI2YbAz4A1Jpz8JZAVcQQCfVG2d > jnp1x9HpEn//1ggCSVUk8TA= > =AiwB > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- If thought is life and strength and breath And the want of thought is death Then am I a happy fly If I live Or if I die -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist