Rich wrote:
> There is a saying that I recall about trying to convince people to change
> their position on matters they hold close.  It goes like this:  "A man
> convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."  I have found it
> to be quite accurate.

That doesn't make sense. Nobody's *forcing* anyone to change their position 
"against his will". And to reiterate, I changed my position on a number of 
issues, when presented with convincing the arguments for the other side, and 
considered the evidence. One of those issues is top-posting.

Moreover, I have witnessed other people change their mind. That's the way it 
should be, in the free marketplace of ideas. The stubborn asses who insist 
on maintaining their position in the face of overwhelming evidence are the 
exception that proves the rule. :-)

> Yes, Gerhard, you are right on, "the PIClist is one
> of the least suited places to convince people."

It was Wouter, not Gerhard, who said that.

Vitaliy 

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