There is a saying that I recall about trying to convince people to change 
their position on matters they hold close.  It goes like this:  "A man 
convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."  I have found it 
to be quite accurate.  Yes, Gerhard, you are right on, "the PIClist is one 
of the least suited places to convince people."

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From: "Vitaliy" <spam@maksimov.org>
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> Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
>>> In my experience the PIClist is one of the least suited places to
>>> convince people. So for all proponents and opponents of GW actions,
>>> NuclearEnergy, Iraq war, etc: why post here at all? Most PIClisters have
>>> a firm opinion on these matters, which your post won't change. So why
>>> not take your writings elsewhere, [...]?
>>
>> Depends on what you want from a discussion. I don't want to convince
>> people, I want to hear what good arguments people have who don't share my
>> opinion. This is a good place for this.
>
> Agreed.
>
> And FWIW, discussions on this list have changed or strongly influenced my
> opinions on various subjects. Wouter's suggestion that the PICList 
> consists
> of mostly closed-minded people is incorrect, IMHO.
>
> Vitaliy
>
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