Alan B. Pearce wrote: >>> My Vauxhall / GM Astra has an electrical power steering pump, lose >>> that >>> and I can't turn the wheel.... Is that counted as drive by wire? >>> >> You CAN turn the steering if the pump fails, it just takes a lot of >> effort. The same with servo assisted brakes, you need good leg muscles >> to stop the car without the engine running, but it is possible. >> > > Yes, it is an interesting experience to have your foot on the brake, and > turn the engine off, while the car is on a slight slope. You feel the brake > pedal get steadily harder to push as the vacuum bleeds away, and you try to > stop the car rolling. > > Typically when driving at highway speed the loss of power steering will be > barely noticeable, it will really only effect the amount of effort you need > to put into the steering at low speed. Does act as a form of 'fail safe' by > making you rather nervous about starting off again after it fails. > > I hadn't heard of using electric pumps for PS before, I guess it simplifies > the factory installation of a heap of engine options that smaller cars seem > to have these days, by not requiring the pump to be mounted on the engine. > > Also in some cases lets the user select varying degrees of assistance, from He-Man through girlyman. I often wish you could set the spring force on the pedals as easily, i have terrible difficulty driving my mums rav 4 after getting out of my 1985 telstar where the only thing thats power assisted is the brakes and even then its still pretty stiff. Get into her car and i stall when letting the clutch out and looking at the brake pedal sends you through the windscreen. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist