> Solar thermal plants such as currently the world's > largest - > the 64 MW Luz built solar trough concentrator installation > in Nevada, USA use molten salt thermal storage to get > about > 7 hours of off-sun storage. > > Abengoa of Spain are about to build a 280 MW installation > at > Gila Bend* - near Arizona USA. It also uses thermal > storage > to allow input smoothing during day to day operations and > 'into the night'. Scheduled to commence power generation > in > 2011. Serendipitously, this just turned up as a reference in an email newsletter "Barriers to Commercialisation of Large-Scale Solar Electricity:- Lessons learned from the Luz experience" http://www.nrel.gov/csp/troughnet/pdfs/sand91_7014.pdf While this is a 1991 Sandia report it was actually written by the previous President for business development for Luz, so his perspective is partisan, but useful. The Nevada Luz solar thermal parabolic concentrator plant was and AFAIK still is the worlds largest. It was built on the subsidy structure of the 1970's oil shocks and the com,pany foundered when the nightmare memories faded and the pricing structures were varied. The plant itself remained viable as a cash cow and is still chugging along nicely some 20+ years on. The new Gila Bend plant will be bigger. The latest "carbon credits" regime helps the economic viability of such plants. They are not too uncompetitive compared with alternatives and if eg 'cheap' hydrocarbons were not available the cost jump to cost effective operation would not be vast. As noted, longer term night storage than the existing thermal is desirable. Pumped hydro is one option. NZ has substantial hydro % capacity and is currently looking at a 5% chance of winter power shortages due to low summer lake inflows. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist