> I think the relay vendor should have the specification about > minimum holding voltage. I've already found 'a' minimum hold voltage. That is, the voltage at which the relay drops out I guess what I'm really getting at is whether the coil is saturated enough, relative to the 15-24V pull-in range, at the lower current/ voltage to be considered a 'solid' hold in normal use As you suggest, the manufacturer may recommend the lower end of the pull-in range, ie > the 13.6V hold voltage I have I'll have to ask, but for now I'll pencil in a voltage doubler and maybe try some amateur vibration tests, for what they're worth -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist