On Apr 14, 2008, at 9:49 AM, alan smith wrote: > Probably too expensive and physically large Are you completely set on a piezo sounder? There seem to be quite a large quantity of the "ring tone" sounders from cell phones available on the surplus market, and they seem to be tiny, impressively loud for their size, and cheap. But most are electromagnetic rather than piezo based. Here's a representative device: http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G13780 -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist