An account (not mine) of the total failure of 150 high quality highly engineered systems under test for reasons that were retrospectively understandable but which would have been unbelievable at the start. ie a high quality mil spec opto coupler that was AC rated to 5000 VAC RMS caused utterly fatal long term problems when run at 500 VDC. An excellent lesson in what can go very very badly wrong. Russell ____________________________ Lots of subtle issues here.... Strange things happen with large DC voltages. I once had a vacation canceled because all 150 of the high tech switching power supplies that had been 100% qualified at 50C for 24 hours were shipped to the integrator where all 150 failed spectacularly near simultaneously after 72 hours at 40C. The fault was an opto isolator in the current feedback path. It was a an expensive full mil spec part specified for 5000V RMS AC, but carried no DC rating. At 500VDC with at elevated temperature charge migrated across the barrier depositing on the receiver side until the charge built up to the level where it jumped into the receiver logic and killed it. Causing the large multi kilowatt power supply to loose its primary current feedback path causing the output transformer to saturate and take out the power transistors that then failed shorted and took out the battery backup transfer switch shorting the large lead acid batteries they were connected to....blowing the last line of defense large DC fuse. (DC fuses are physically much larger than an equivalent AC fuses as AC extinguishes the arc 60 times a second.) Batteries were separate form the main electronics and separately cooled for thermal reasons. This was a supply design that had been rigorously reviewed and subjected to extreme testing both mechanical and thermal. The first test supply with lots of buried temp sensors in the potted magnetics, etc...reached thermal equilibrium in 30 minutes after running at 65C. So we felt safe with a 24hour test at 65C. The whole job was a rush to power some battle field computers for the original dessert shield/storm. In additional testing after the failure we found that at 65C the opto coupler failed at 26 hours +/-1 hour at 500V. Via FEMA we had identified the opto coupler as a potential bad failure point, and had upgraded the otherwise COTS equipment in that area to a high reliability opto. This job and failure has always given me nightmares, we did everything right and it still blew up in our face. What if it had been a spacecraft with a 10 year travel mission and the DC charge migration took 9years to go bang? Complex systems fail in complex unknown ways... Paul -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist