Mailman (the software used by MIT to host this and many other lists) does not allow for a new subscriber to have anything other than ALL the topics turned on. It is up to the subscriber to turn them off. Even more annoying: Us list admins can NOT turn on or off users subscriptions to topics. Only the subscribers can turn topics off. I don't mind ENG Your descriptions are, in my opinion, very unclear. -- James. -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Apptech Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 17:03 To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [OT] Proposal: Add another tag > Ok, I'm not entirely against adding a new tag. I do have > several issues that > need to be addressed: As brief as I ever can be ... :-) 1. Perhaps, subscription is by opt-in. All new subs start with PIC, ADMIN and perhaps OT enabled. Others such as SX AVR etc tbd. EE and ENG (see below) off. Other main tags must be turned on by user. Expect some please-scribble-me posts. Maybe a monthly std email to all covering tags and general list etiquette, as are issued by many lists. Maybe only when the noise levels grows too high. Optional: Anyone who is deemed by admin (or just annoyed admin ;-) ) to have complained too much about actually legitimate posts in a thread have that thread turned off and a message sent. "Dear xxx. Your subscription to tag [ENG] has been disabled. If you wish to re-enable this tag please click on this link. have a nice day." Optional: Complaining about admin actions is grounds for [being hit with a wet fish | being suspended | being subscribbled solely to full- digest mode | other] 2. [ENG] as a new tag. The main progression is then [PIC] [EE] [ENG] [OT] ENG is used because OE is obscure and SCI tends to leave doubt if an engineeringish post may lie between EE and SCI By nestling ENG against EE both are clearly engineering and EE is clearly electrical. If there is any doubt it becomes whether to use OT or ENG and anyone who doesn't closely follow the descriptions may put a scienceish subject in OT that may legitimately go in ENG. Nobody is liable to complain about this and if the poster is not passionate enough to push it up into ENG then nobody suffers too much. I would happily police the ENG upper and lower boundaries in a polite manner. Standard messages would probably help SO PIC Clear - Police with extreme prejudice EE Must be electrically related. Engineering content also STRONGLY desired. eg introduction of a new semiconductor device is fine. USE of a new ... is even better. Police with polite prejudice ENG MUST have engineering or science content. eg about things which we observe and which are NOT dependant mainly on their people content. OT Defined by what is NOT allowed anywhere. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist