Ok, I'm not entirely against adding a new tag. I do have several issues that need to be addressed: 1. The name of the tag needs to be as short as possible. I'm happy with Byron's [OE] suggestion, [SCI] is a close second and [TECHNO] or even [TECH] is just too long. 2. Some CLEAR means of delineating what goes in each topic tag must be found and descriptions that EVERYONE, including the most basic newbie or ESL can understand. Keep in mind this means being able to describe clearly what belongs and does not belong in each of the following PIC, EE, OE, OT not to mention BUY and AD and the little used AVR, ARM and SX tags. 3. The descriptions must not only be clear, they must be SHORT and use SMALL words. People will just not take the time to read long descriptions. 4. Someone OTHER THAN ME or the other existing admins must volunteer to become an admin, (this includes reading a rather lengthy manual) and take their own time to POLICE that new topic. I am NOT willing to do it. Given all of that, here is my best try at a clear and concise description of the forest of tags that a new poster must take the time to understand. [PIC] Only questions or comments about PIC microcontrollers. If it doesn't include a PIC part number or PIC family, do not post it with [PIC]. Do not try to advertise or buy anything in a [PIC] post. [SX] Items specific to the Scenix/Ubicom/Parallax SX microcontrollers [AVR] Items specific to the Atmel AVR microcontrollers [ARM] Items specific to ARM microcontrollers [EE] Electronic or Embedded Engineering only. Posts with [EE] may not be about a microcontroller, but must include something with electrons running around in it. [OE] Other Engineering. Posts related to science, theories, technology, or news. Don't use [OT] if it isn't techie. * [OT] Other topics such as humor, travel, advice, etc... * * NEVER post your opinions as if they are statements of fact without independently verifiable evidence or clinical studies to back them up. E.g. religion, politics, or other contentious subjects are never allowed. [AD] advertisements of a commercial product or service including your opinions or experiences. Don't spam, do post [AD]! [BUY] People looking for parts, equipment, or consultants will use this topic. I personally think that is ridiculous. Asking people to understand and correctly use all those tags is beyond hope. Scott Dattalo and others have expressed that they will not take the effort to turn off the tags other than PIC and possibly will not participate or even leave as a result. Since the ENTIRE point of having the other topics was so that the people who wanted to yak on and on could do so without disturbing the people like Scott who are busy and have only the time for PIC related post, I don't really see the point in continuing here. Not to mention the fact that I'm about totally freaking sick of it. The effort that I put into policing PIC for Scott et all is apparently wasted. I don't have the time, energy, or desire to enforce a "PIC and nothing but PIC list" for the purists. The other tags are there as a relief valve to allow those who simply MUST yak on about non-PIC issues to be able to do it without disturbing the purists, but if the purists can't allow that... Atlas shrugged. -- James. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist