Apptech wrote: > Could we just perhaps pretty pretty please try another tag > between EE and OT. Or better yet, just shut up already about off topics. Or at least if you get this feeling that you've stumbled accross some new research that everyone would of course be interested in or should be for their own good (that's the arrogant part I mentioned), just post a link with a quick sentence indicating what it's about so others can decide to follow the link or not. Even copying one or two salient paragraphs for most of us (like me) usually too lazy or busy to follow the link is OK with me. But unless you are actively envolved with the topic and truly a "expert", I don't give a crap what you think about it, and I definitely don't want to hear what you think I should think about it. For example, you are envolved with the Bogo light, and I therefore found your analysis of the various environmental footprint tradeoffs interesting. You had done some personal research and much more thinking and examining the tradeoffs in a real situation than most of us here, so there was reason to listen to your conclusions. However unless I'm very mistaken, you're not a global warming researcher, so pontificating on what I should think and what someone else's research means to me is worse than a waste of time. You are no more qualified than me and most other people here to decide what it all means. As a result, other people chime in with their different and equally irrelevant analysis. Everyone feels no less qualified to give their opinion than the next person, so they feel compelled to do so when their point of view is attacked. In other words, it becomes a religious discussion even though it's about a scientific topic. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist