> >They make the point that the radiation pattern and > >focusability >>allows an even greater improvement than this over CFLs on >>terms of end user light. > Ah, so this would be a suitable bulb to use in desk lights > or those stand > alone over-your-shoulder type lights. CFLs work horribly > in those. Yes. It has a fairly brought angle (about 140 degrees between half power points) and a somewhat fatter than Lambertian radiation pattern which is appropriate for this sort of use, so would be good for that sort of lamp as is and could be lensed down. Increasing angle with lenses is something that some attempt but which is largely not successful. You can use other optical devices to do this. Starting as wide as you want or wider is usually best. Alas the LED at present costs about $US25 (Mouser /100) or if you must buy it from them Euro 25 :-) from somebody else. About $US30/1. No doubt the volume price will be somewhat lower but it's still rather dear. At even $US20 that's $2/Watt which is OK. It would make a nice "torch" :-). 6 x 2500 mAh NimH would last for about 45 minutes with a good buck regulator. A 12V 7AH SLA brick would last for 6+ hours. It would take a 10 to 20 Watt solar panel to service it well with a 12V 7AH SLA but would be a very very good lightbulb replacement. IF the life is guaranteed it's OK, but this is by no means certain. Luxeon have a "lumen maintenance" specification which is essentially a guarantee against degradation. The 10 Watt LED has no lifetime data that I can find so far. Dome is "silicone resin", which is a good start. Looking at a data sheet for some Seoul Semiconductor 20 mA 14 degree 18,000 mCd LEDs revealed a disturbing fact. In the test data they run them at 30 mA (the max rating) and test a batch of 18 (it seems) for 1000 hours. The spec is for 0 failures in this time within test limits. Some parameter limits are fine BUT the flux limit is 50%. So they are saying that all LEDs in the test did not degrade by more than 50% in 1000 hours. I would certainly hope not !!! This limit is disturbing as they have obviously [tm] set it low enough to ensure no failures in 1000 hours. That suggests that a limit of say 60% or 80% or 90% was too tight. With lifetimes loosely quoted as 100,000 hours and real lifetimes of 10,000 hours plus I'd certainly expect FAR better than 50% degradation in 1000 hours, even at max permissible current. . Russell McMahon -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist