On Apr 13, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Al Shinn wrote: > am I wrong about science belonging to OT? should i be EE? Well, therein is the problem, IMO. Much of many sciences ties pretty closely to Engineering, either directly or by common interests. But GW seems awfully "out there" in the realm of pure science (or what OUGHT to be pure science.) Worse, there is nothing in my EE education that helps me interpret much of the data; I know nothing of planetary climatology to evaluate claims made in the field, so I'm forced (if I pay attention at all) to evaluate GW articles based on peripheral observations about how "scientific" or unbiased the article appears to be. (on top of that, I'm not convinced that ANYONE understands planetary climatology well enough to draw conclusions about future trends from ANY set of present or historical data.) So I find it very frustrating to (try to) follow even the most reasonably done GW studies. The added impetus to form "useful" CONCLUSIONS based on such studies makes things worse, and the implication to engineers that they really need to start DOING something about it makes it impossible. (Here in the Ca Bay Area, the local energy company has a set of commercials that really piss me off; essentially "turn the thermostat of your air conditioner up or you'll leave your children a parched desert of a California." As if we actually KNEW ... everything! Grr.) In a sense, it's like psychic phenomena. No doubt there are people studying such things in a scientific way, but I wouldn't find even the best of the papers to be reasonable fodder for the [EE] topic thread... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist