In Toronto there is a street called Admiral Road. When they built the road (some 100 years ago I believe), there was a large tree right where they wanted to build...so they made the row wide and routed it around the tree. The tree didn't survive the construction but the fat part of the road persisted. You can see it here: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Toronto,+ON&ie=UTF8&ll=43.671771,-79.400248&spn=0.001405,0.002832&t=h&z=19&iwloc=addr The fat part is right between the two "Admiral Rd" labels. Josh -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist