Apptech wrote: >> Interested foreign nationals may benefit from perusal of >> "The Federalist Papers", >> a compendium of the debate amongst the Founders that >> preceded the adoption >> of the Constitution - The 2nd Amendment was clearly >> intended as a check on >> the power of the Executive by the Framers. >> > > >> This does'nt suit some folks - They have the remedy of >> amending the Constitution. >> > > >From where this "interested foreign national" stands out on > the leading edge of the fading empire (which y'All were part > of), misinterpreting and misrepresenting the true intentions > of the US founders seems to be a national sport. As an > apposite example, the current US official take on > "separation of church and state" must have the founders in a > state of ever increasing high speed rotation. The longer > term consequences of such a stance can be seen by looking > across the way to see how your nations founders are faring > in consequence of having taken previously taken a similarly > enlightened stand. Foundations and foundational aims are not > necessarily optimal, and the various US constitutional > amendments in part sought to remedy this. But where vested > and/or unstated interests are allowed to creep in, and it's > human nature for this to happen, then the outcomes are > predictable. A 'win' today that frees you from an apparent > evil is often the open door to a far greater one. Give it > another 100 years or so (maybe 50) and your new ruler will > be Great. [Lest the preceding be unclear I'm not largely > talking about any claimed current administrative fascist > tendencies]. > > > Russell > > > The country is gradually taking on a "facade" of freedom while the substance (of freedom) is being eroded. The federal government lies to us so frequently that people no longer have any respect whatever, and that is worrisome to me. The currency being debauched is just a symptom of a deeper illness. Federal officials are now so blatant (having being successfully deceptive for so many years) that it is awesome to watch. --Bob A -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist