Not overly pertinent to the larger theme of the thread, but 
to some 'subtexts'.

> How do you feel about Occams razor ?
> ( Occam's razor (sometimes spelled Ockham's razor) is a 
> principle
> attributed to the 14th-century English logician and 
> Franciscan friar
> William of Ockham )
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_Razor

When seeking to apply Occams razor to a subject care is 
needed to not mistake what it is intended to mean compared 
to the many subtle and not so subtle variants that hjave 
arisen that can say quite different things. In essence 
Occams Razor is the opinion that "If there are a number of 
theories that are equally good at apparently explaining an 
observation you may as well use the simplest one initially".

- This is only an opinion (although it may be a useful one).
- It does not say that there is any indication that the 
theory you choose has a better chance of being right than 
others (although it may).

Simplicity is often an indicator of elegance. But sometimes 
its mainly just an indicator of simplicity.
__________

> The U.S. is indeed controlled by a facist regime.
> see definition
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

The part of ther articel that is most appropriate [IMHO 
[tm]] in this context is

         the term fascist is often a slur, used by adherents 
of
        some ideologies to describe their opponents

ie while there are a number of elements of the definition 
that match quite well, the difference between the current US 
system, notwithstanding it's apparent directions and the 
undoubted failings that it does have, and that implemented 
by eg Benito Musslini are as day and night respectively. 
While there are many in the US who may SEEK to be Fascist, 
who wish to be Fascist and who work against the directions 
of democracy as a whole, Mussolinis system had none of the 
remedies available to the US citizenry at present.
_______________

>> Anyhow, you would be bored to death if you where to wait 
>> for any
>> building to
>> collapse because of fire!
>> Engineers know that rolled metal has something that is 
>> called a
>> 'benign mode
>> of failure'! that is things bend before they fail! that 
>> takes
>> energy and
>> time! Haven't seen other building fires that burned much 
>> longer?
>> And now the
>> worlds first 3 highrises that fail just like controlled 
>> demolitions
>> do!

Some while ago I read through engineering comments on the 
'tube and shell' design of theWTC buildings. Included in the 
available material was the original designers comments on 
how substantially different it was from what had been done 
in all but a few cases and gave a good idea of how advanced 
they thought the scheme was. I conclude that comparisons 
with other types of construction are less apposite than may 
be apparent.

I  have not overly concerned myself with the details of the 
conspiracy theories*over the WTC events. There are many 
capable intelligent people doing that already. I have read 
enough to believe that there are grave doubts either way but 
that simplistic "it must be right because of these facts 
..." explanations are far from certain. I would not be 
overly surprised if the government-complicity theories are 
correct, but I would be rather less surprised if they are 
not. Such things are really beyond the certain 
determination  of anyone who is not prepared to make it 
their life's mission to find the truth.

But, fwiw, Occam says that, for now, you may as well assume 
that OBL & co did it as claimed.



        Russell


[[*Note that conspiracy theories may or may not be correct - 
the term is not a perjorative although it is usually used 
that way. For example, not too many years ago some 
conspiracy theorists started talking about secret 
international flights of small long range aircraft between 
the US and other nations on top secret government business 
which was alleged to involved the transportation of 
prosioners to locations where they could be interviewed or 
tortured or killed without the protection and limitations of 
US law. Such material was "conspiracy theory" of the wildest 
sort. It is now public knowledge that the theories were 
correct.]]



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