>> http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=scrith&meta= > Fabulous... thanks. 38 years is enough time to forget, I > guess. That long !!!? Early on I had a manager who told me about these fantastic SciFi stories with Puppeteers and General Products hulls and ... . It all sounded too much like Fantasy to me and I never pursued it. So I was a decade or two late catching up with Larry and friends. I find (all such is opinion and personal preference) that the author Niven-Pournelle is better than Niven or Pournelle alone. I said that to Jerry (politely) and he agreed - he said "That's why we do it". Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist