This really shouldn't be discussed on the PICList, and I have already asked
that some of the language involved be changed offlist.

Having said that, this thread hasn't (as far as I have seen) generated a
flame war, which is the reason why the list was set up with prohibitions
against political or religious discussions.

I would like to add to what Nate said about not focusing so much on the
President. I would suggestion that were people can REALLY make a difference
is by voting with their dollars rather than for any political appointee.

Discussing or voting in political areas has little effect compared to voting
with money in the economy. No matter if you think we invaded Iraq entirely
to get oil, to keep oil from being sold under OPEC prices or, even for
humanitarian reasons, I think we can all agree that if there were not large
amounts of oil in that area, we would not be worrying about it. If you don't
like the war in Iraq, find a way to stop or reduce your purchases of oil.
For my part, I took a (slight) pay cut and changed to working 4 10 hour days
a week to reduce (some) my gasoline usage. I hope to convince my boss to let
me tele-commute. I put in a wood stove, and clothes drying racks to reduce
(vastly) my use of "Natural" Gas. I put in solar panels to reduce (vastly)
my use of fossil fuel electricity. We grow some of our own food. As a
result, I can sleep at night (now) and blame most of the rest of you for the
war rather than myself.

Arguing about politics is, by and large, a waste of time. Politicians do
what they do because they must do it to get re-elected. Educating the people
and changing the economy is the only real way to change the world.

The PICList is about educating the people. We, the engineers of the world,
are able, and therefore responsible to, change the world. When we present
the world with a logical alternative to oil based transport and energy
production, to non-toxic electronic circuitry, to better information and
education, the world will follow OUR lead.

Stand up.

--
James.

-----Original Message-----
From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of
Nate Duehr
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 13:48
To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public.
Subject: Re: [EE]:: ROHS - worse for the environment than the alternative

Cedric Chang wrote:

>> This whole idea of pushing your votes/results earlier trying to
>> influence later voting is a travesty.
>>
> McCain will keep the U.S. in Iraq for 100 years, Obama will rule us  
> with a velvet glove, and Hillary is beyond evil.  You want me to vote  
> for one of these ?

The President doesn't have the power to do any of the above without 
Congress.

Vote carefully for your CongressCritters, and stop worrying about the 
Presidential hype until there's an issue that may be vetoed.

Currently the approval rating of Congress as a whole is something less 
than 20%... but we don't hear about that on the news.  That's the real 
problem.

Lobbyists, big money, and lack of integrity... in both Congress and the 
Oval Office.

Nate
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