On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, piclist@ian.org wrote: > I stopped working with PICs for about 3 years and am now trying to get a > few projects working again. > > I have an old Warp-13 (Bluepole 1.6f) which sometimes will program my > 16F88, but usually just 'programs' them in about 1 second and fails to > verify. I can't figure out why it works sometimes but not others. It > will flash a 16F84A and a 16F252 as a test just fine, but my 16F88s? No! UPDATE! So I bought a PICkit2 and it worked for a bit, but then started showing the same problems. Oh noes! But I finally found the solution on the microchip forums. http://forum.microchip.com/fb.aspx?m=306403 It seems that the 16F88 and a few other chips become unprogrammable if you use MCLR as an IO pin, you use the internal osc, and you set TIMER1 to use the internal osc as a clock source. The above link gives a fix to recover the part. So it seems my Warp-13 was not as flakey as I had thought and I didn't really need to buy a PICkit2. Bu I am glad I did anyway, it's a great little device and I can use it on laptops with no serial port too. -- Ian Smith -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist