> Ah, American politics. Even if I agree with the basic > conclusion > ("ROHS restriction of lead-based solders is silly"), a > report from > our government organizations (EPA, in this case) inspires > such anti- > confidence that I'm back to square one. Sigh. You could actually try looking at the contents:-). What surprised me initially was that it appeared to be a tool box of methods and data with almost no obvious conclusions being drawn. It had tables of things like pre manufacturing impacts in a range of areas such as mining requirements, energy usage etc and post use impacts such as landfill leachates etc. Given the great difficulty of getting good information in such areas it seemed that anyone who was interested could at least look at what they say and how they say they obtained the data and what methods they used to get it and present it and see if it looked objective enough to be useful to prop up whatever preconceived position the user already had. (That is what one uses this sort of thing for, isn't it?). Compare this with the IPCC approach of massaging the basic statistical framework to make it impossible [yes, I know what that word means] to make much data do anything except fit their mould. This approach appears to work well, given the significant amount of IPCC supporting commentary that is made, when such matters are referred to, that completely avoids addressing the claim that the emperors clothes have been taken away and burned. I have no mandate for the EPA - I can believe that they are not what they were, even though I have seen them do some 'good stuff' [tm] in the past, but I would have thought that a look through the report would be a reasonable precursor to slanging them over it. I had no idea what I was letting myself in for when I presented this. It seemed like a gold mine of basic resource (also a tin mine, lead mine, silver mine, tin mine and more) and I commented on how surprisingly conclusion free it seemed. I can now see why. They must be staggering shell-shocked from one report release to the next wondering how to please anyone at all :-). Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist