Is there a version of MPLAB IDE out there that came with the *full* PICStart Plus firmware for the flash module? I suspect that the version with my current install are bootloader free and as I'm having problems getting a dead PUM to work again when I use my PICKit2 to program it. If anyone has a hex file for the bootloader used that would be nice as well... -- Clint Sharp -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist