>> That makes me feel BETTER about a possible nuclear >> accident? I guess I >> wasn't paying attention... > Point being that we are running risks all the time, and > having > accidents at a level that would make headline news if they > were > "nuclear accidents", but since it was "just" a gas tanker > or such, > somehow it's no big deal. A factor is that the "just a gas tanker" accidents have relatively well defined outcomes. Those who die in fireballs or being crushed etc are able to be counted with some certainty. The injured may be categorised statistically by means which are good enough for demographics and never good enough for the victims. The more abstruse outcomes such as poisonings, mutations, xxx due to release of yyy into the environment are usually small enough to be comfortable with. Every now and then you get a Bhopal or Thalidomide to shake you. But usually not. There would be every right for accidents at the gas tanker level to be headline news if they occurred. It's all too pervasive once it does get out. Nuclear has the nasty ionising radiation effect which I mentioned yesterday and which was noted as a given but not addressed. It's pervasive enough that it can sneak up on you in impossibly small doses such that eg the (largely childhood) cancer clusters at Sellafield can't possibly have been caused by radiation / nucleotides / ... so are stunningly and stupidly rejected by science as 'just something that happened" when it is obvious to ALL others that the methodology and measurement has holes in it and that death and mutation stalks the land invisibly - albeit at a very very very small scale. As long as science is going to be used as a club to prove white black and black white then you are not going to sell yer nuclear cocktails to the great unwashed. And even if it's not you will probably have a hard time doing so :-). While one is working on levelling the playing field one may wish to deal with eg DU used in weaponry but sourced from nuclear waste so that it contains subtly different trace level radio isotope mixes. Quite why people decided to cost and corner cut to get rid of their waste profitably this way who can tell? Must be time to go to sleep ... :-) Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist