> Hang on, you seem to have this upside-down - "hard" means > there *is* a lot of calcium in the water: Fishtoo Moriarty, you're right. I always thought it was the other way around. I suppose I associated chalk with soft and granite with hard > I seem to remember that when I visited NZ the water was > generally softer than here - at least in Dunedin It would be in Auckland, mostly volcanic, plenty of manganese and iron - via iron sand and other ejecta ISTR, a long time since I did water quality at uni, not a lot of chalky soil in NZ generally. There's sandstone down south (actually Dunedin way) -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist