On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 12:42:51AM -0400, Vitaliy wrote: > James Newton wrote: > > If you realize that your children's education is YOUR responsibility, you > > will do what you can to make up for the time they waste in public school, > > even if you do not have the ability to use that time. Take the time you DO > > have and put it to use teaching them to love learning about the subjects > > they have an interest in. > > Thanks for the personal story James, it's always easier when you know that > somebody has done it before. :) > > I understand and agree with what you're saying, it's just that I've always > been frustrated with things that are wasteful and inefficient. I think about > how much better things could be if school time was actually used for > learning. This trait has gotten me in trouble more than once, and I'm slowly > starting to learn to "accept that which I cannot change", instead of trying > to fight it. The problem is, sometimes it's difficult to know what that > "that" is. :-) Now Vitaliy, don't get frustrated and give up on the process. I have always agreed with you that the public school system needs to change. Our point of disagreement is how to change it so that the most efficient and effective solutions for educating the vast majority of the populus emerges. Here in Georgia, laws have been passed where entire school systems can be chartered, effictively removing them from state and local school system control, yet still receiving federal, state, and local funding. The City of Decatur school system in the Metro Atlanta area is considering such a change. Here's an excerpt from a quickly Gargoyled post that I found on the subject: http://www.city-data.com/forum/atlanta/175227-what-exactly-charter-school.html ----------------------------------------------- Decatur would be relieved of many of the regulations imposed by the state of Georgia in exchange for greater accountability standards. Decatur is a really small system with a lot of innovative programs, and some of the regulations that come down from the state don't work well in a small school system environment. Decatur shouldn't have a problem with the increased accountability b/c they are high performing. Unfortunately, Decatur would still be subject to NCLB and other federal laws. For example, at the high school level, Decatur is looking at implementing a credit recovery program that it has been using successfully in conjunction with Ben Franklin Academy. They also want to look at some high school programs whereby students can demonstrate proficiency in a class and be able to move on to the next class instead of being stuck in the classroom doing "seat time." We have a lot of gifted ID'd kids and a lot of kids with extensive foreign language experience (Decatur kids take foreign language every day beginning in K) who could easily exempt out of certain classes and move on were it not for state regs. There are many other things that they may or may not look at, such as allowing 5th grade teachers to loop to middle school with their kids to ease that transition. You cannot do this without a waiver or charter status b/c of certification issues. Each school in the charter system would be a charter school, but the schools would all be linked by commonalities in operations, pedagogy, etc. Each school would have greater autonomy but still would have to operate within the charter system. The charter system law is quite different from the charter school law, particularly with regard to finances. A charter system is funded in the same way that a regular system is so a charter system is in a much more stable situation financially than is a charter school. The only difference is that a charter system can also get additional grant money that is not available to regular systems. ---------------------------------------------- This is a move in the right direction, except I'm not sure how such a system will handle unproductive and problem children that are living within the charter district. But that movement is in political danger. I found the article I read last week here: http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/dekalb/stories/2008/03/11/charter_0311.html The squabble is over which level of government, local or state, has the right to allocate funds to charter schools within a district. If you feel like some legalese, the actual bill can be found here: http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2007_08/fulltext/hb881.htm Should charter schools be authorized by the state of which the local school board does not approve? Especially when that charter school will receive funds from the local tax base? I'm not sure. Point is that there is some movement relative to the traditional public school system model. However even after reading that bill it's unclear to me what responsibilities charter schools have to weak or unruly students. BAJ -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist