Its my opinion that eventually, religion will be seen by the world as another form of mental illness, and will be outlawed universally. Look at all the damage Islam does; in a not-so-distant time, Christianity did the very same thing. Talking people into committing suicide with a concealed bomb is mental illness without question. --Bob Axtell Vasile Surducan wrote: > Usually James is closing such topics fast, maybe it's busy now... > > Any religion cult (like the piclist) has it's own voluntarism. Bygone now? > A part of that is about money, other part about believing, who knows > which is the bigger one. > A voluntary guy will be the same in US or Zambia, even in US will put > some money in the box at the end of the church service (maybe only by > shame, maybe not...) and in Zambia will shake only the hand of the > churchman...to poor for more. > > However, yes, not only christianity but any religion implies the > existence of totalitarism. > And the history shows that religion was the right hand of the leaders > in the comunist countries. And is still the right hand of the leaders > in all democratic countries. > So believe, but beware how. > > > > On 3/21/08, Gerhard Fiedler wrote: > >> Rich wrote: >> >> >>> Is Christianity voluntary? >>> >> Depends on where you live :) >> >> IMO it's so ingrained in the European and US culture (and some others) that >> when living there, accepting some of what came with it is not quite >> voluntary. You can try to live "against" some of that, but even then you're >> living it -- just from the other side :) >> >> I'm no Christian in the normal sense of the word, but I'm fully aware that >> part of what I think and feel is determined by my upbringing and my >> childhood experiences, which partly can be described as the ones of a boy >> growing up in a Christian culture. I didn't have much of a choice with >> that. >> >> Gerhard >> >> -- >> http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >> View/change your membership options at >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >> >> -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist