>I *might* even have some of those MC14500B chips I could never work out what the destination market for that device was. I did envisage that it might be useable as a keyboard scanner or something similar, but the extra chips needed to store the program and act as a program counter seemed to ruin the small/cheap purpose of the MC14500 itself. You needed a 4 bit wide program store - i.e. half an eprom, and a program counter, i.e. something like a MC4020 or a presettable binary counter like the MC14520 (think I remember the right one), and it all just seemed too much. The end circuit was going to be as large, and as expensive, as using a normal single chip micro that had heaps more facilities. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist