> Russell - just curious: can you discuss the circuit > details? Not yet. When they become readily available I probably can as they are eminently reverse engineerable in the normal manner. Once somebody else publishes the circuit from reverse engineering it I can comment on it :-). Basically it's applied common sense carried to the extreme as much as possible. Simplicity and cheapness in achieving desired functionality is important. Cost is low. Boost converter. Uses very time honoured and very very cheap SMPS IC with a little magic to transform its efficiency. Multiple brightnesses. Two lighting modes - very nice. How waterproof they are will depend on final design and production decisions which are not in my hands but I'm hoping that they will be near 100%. Should be able to be left in weather all day regardless of conditions. Constant output at all battery levels for a given mode and brightness. Attempts to protect battery from over and under charge subject to the need to build it for approx $0. A little more - read it in the patent documentation when it becomes available :-). Anon. I'm looking forward to having a few around to use :-). Note that this is not my product. I'm limited to telling largely what you can infer from the website or techo stuff that doesn't affect it's commercial edge. It should be a really great product and I'm not aware of anything that matches it in its market niche. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist