On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Brian B. Riley wrote: > Thermite is an an exchange reaction. The oxygen comes from the mix. > > FE2O3 + 2Al gives Al2O3 + 2Fe + copious amounts of heat. > > It requires a lot of heat to get started, usually ignited with a > magnesium ribbon. > > It was concocted to do field welds on railroad rails and was also > found to be very handy for sabotage. The reaction produces molten > iron, it doesn't burn through anything, its just melts it. I had > thermite grenades taped to the bipod/tripod legs of all my machine > guns and mortars in Nam for quick access to destroy the weapon if we > ever got overrun, which, fortunately, I never had to do. I did once > raid a small NVA base camp and the thermite did a great job when left > on the engine blocks of some old French trucks they had. > > I have no experience specifically with thermite inside a safe, but my > feeling is that with the containment, the temps would get up to > several thousand degrees long before it melted through the steel > walls. There's no such thing as 'milder thermite' you would just have > to limit the amount or possibly contaminate the mix with something > inert like sand to slow it down.. > > cheers ... BBR Hi Brian, I had a feeling thermite grenades weren't straight forward Fe/Al thermite. I did some digging and found (wikipedia) that they contain a large amount of Barium Nitrate and also some sulphur. I think you could only go so far with an inert contaminant before it actually snuffs out the reaction. Perhaps using a smaller amount of thermite in a large thick iron shell would be better. Melting the shell would absorb heat from the thermite. Regards Sergio -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist