>> One notices Hegel did not write " I learn nothing from History"... > You are correct, he did not. I paraphrased, the phrase I said was "The only > thing we learn from history is that we do not learn from history." Is that > in dispute? Oh no. Point is, while we cannot individually change a moribund public school system, we - Many of us - can spare our children wasting years developing "self-esteem" at the expense of literacy, numeracy, and disciplined learning habits. If you can, and don't, the odds are good you'll wish you had... Jack On 3/17/08, Rich wrote: > You are correct, he did not. I paraphrased, the phrase I said was "The only > thing we learn from history is that we do not learn from history." Is that > in dispute? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Gardner" > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 3:06 PM > Subject: Re: [OT] Who is to blame: Was: Using vouchers to > improvethequalityofschools(was:Educationreform) > > > > One notices Hegel did not write " I learn nothing from History"... > > > > On 3/17/08, Gerhard Fiedler wrote: > >> Rich wrote: > >> > >> > My meaning was not to call anyone a communist but to point out that the > >> > idea that has been raised ( placing children's education with the > >> > state) > >> > has been exercised for political purposes [...] > >> > >> But (whether I agree with Cedric or not), it seemed to me that he > >> specifically said to /not/ place children's education with the state, but > >> rather with a community that is a bit larger than the family. > >> > >> Which is also related to this: > >> > >> > One of the socio-political problems that America is faced with today is > >> > the breakdown of the family unit, and children having only one parent > >> > or > >> > no dependable parent to look up to. > >> > >> IMO the problem is not so much the breakdown of the family unit, but the > >> fact that there is no other group around (anymore) that is able to step > >> in, > >> in terms of education. > >> > >> Gerhard > >> > >> -- > >> http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > >> View/change your membership options at > >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > >> > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist