Byron wrote: > I have no idea how this thread got jump started again after a month or so. T'was me. From time to time, I take forced breaks (work, family) from the PICList. The pull is too great however, and if after a month of absence I feel that I may have something worthwhile to say on the subject, I jump start the thread. :) ==> I changed the subject to improve the focus of the conversation. Corruption, relativism, and maybe even "public vs private schools" deserve their own topics. Should you decide to digress, please remember start a new topic. Rather than respond to every post, let me (re)state the relevant points which I think are important: 1. Education is a "positive externality" in economics. Everybody benefits from it, but not everybody wants to pay for it (the "Free Rider" problem). Therefore, while I have great respect for Cedric Chang's Libertarian views, I believe the government *should* subsidize education. 2. Competition in a free market benefits consumers. It is the force that drives companies to operate more efficiently, and make their product or service better and cheaper. Conversely, lack of competition hurts consumers. Whenever a company is a monopoly or has an unfair advantage, it tends to be wasteful and inefficient. As applied to education, the government gives the public school system an unfair advantage, by subsidizing its entire cost of operation (for all practical purposes, bake sales notwithstanding), and excluding private schools from receiving the same funding. 3. The quality of education is the only criteria by which a school's performance should be measured. It should not matter how the end result (well-educated students) is achieved. I realize this one is difficult, but it is by no means impossible. The point here is, measuring anything else tends to produce undesired results. Lee Jones had an excellent example of what happens when funding is directly tied to attendance. 4. Public schools are not making efficient use of the money they are given. 5. The voucher system seems to be the best way to get the most "bang for the buck". In an ideal world, it would work like this: A. The government collects money from taxpayers. B. The money is converted into vouchers, which are issued to the pupils' guardians. C. Guardians are allowed to spend the vouchers at their discretion (public, private, home) This of course assumes that public schools cease to receive any additional funding from the government. Many people will disagree. Rather than trying to address hypothetical concerns, I would prefer to respond to specific criticisms (this post is already too long). I kindly ask that when you respond, please: - Stick to the topic. Tell me why you think vouchers are not the best way to improve school quality, and what alternatives there are. - Try not to attack straw men. :) Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist