Cedric Chang wrote: > I think you are over-stating my annoyance... It is not like I throw > myself around the room. ; or foam at the mouth. Maybe; I don't know. But the fact that the way I understood your message had about nothing to do with mine, even though it was a reply to mine, had something to do with this comment. >>> And my primary axiom is to preserve the maximum freedom for the maximum >>> number of people. >> >> How will you ever have a chance of getting near that axiom (or goal) if >> you get so annoyed by other people that your chance of understanding >> them (and what they think is their freedom) seems rather small? Without >> that understanding, you may end up trying to preserve your own, >> personal freedom, rather than the maximum freedom for the maximum >> number of people. It takes a lot of patience, understanding and >> sensibility to do anything for a larger number of people. > > Not really, you just let them do what they want. I used to be a control > freak ; I have largely moved away from that. It is really easy when you > quit worrying about what other people are doing as long as they do not > infringe on your space or others. How does this relate with "drawing a line and act on it" WRT corruption? Usually, corrupt acts don't affect you directly. >> (It's rather easy to use one's own personal judgment on a case-by-case >> basis. No definition necessary; you just judge however you want, do >> whatever you want, and that's it. > > Which is the way it should be I can understand this. But then, you're doing it all for you, and not for "the maximum number of people". In order to do that, you have to bring a few of these in, and their opinions. "I do what I want" is probably the only ultimate truth. But it's not self-evident, and it doesn't maximize anything for a maximum number of people :) Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist