I've lost the article for the moment, but ATA magazine wobbled on about a US manufacturer who has knicked my brilliant idea of making whirlygig thingies into a Savonius motor as well as still extracting air. They were looking for agents. Colin :: Has anyone had any experience with small windmills / wind :: turbines for power generation. :: :: There are numerous websites with details of all the normal :: players and then some. I'm investigating devices which are :: small and relatively indestructible. Aim is a power :: generation capability in the 100's of milliWatts to few :: Watts range with an emphasis on longevity and leanings :: toward operation in a wide wind speed range,simplicity, low :: cost and audible impact. Minimisation of size is not overly :: important as they are liable to be small enough that one :: several times larger than an optimum output model is liable :: to not be overly large. :: :: The much derided Savonius design may have some advantages :: given the above focus on priorities. :: :: For interest I offer the following empirical and so far :: untrammelled by reduction to practical test formula for the :: upper speed of a Savonius windmill. :: :: RPM <= 15 x V /d :: :: V = windspeed in metres per second :: d = diameter in metres. :: :: This says that eg a Savonius built with wheelbarrow buckets :: (as they do it on Oz) and a 2 metre diameter would not spin :: over 150 RPM in a bracing 20 m/s 'breeze'. (70 kph / 50 :: mph). Just as well! For a given power this 'explains' their :: large torque (also arrived at by other obvious means). :: :: :: Russell -- cdb, colin@btech-online.co.uk on 10/03/2008 Web presence: www.btech-online.co.uk Hosted by: www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=7988359 Even if faith is lacking, and hope is non existent, you always have charity and compassion to offer. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1322 - Release Date: 3/9/2008 12:17 PM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist