Only some of the 5,999,999,999 others have gone there already. http://www.electronicsnews.com.au/articles/The-six-billionth-PIC-microcontroller_z149618.htm 1 billion since November 2006 is about 25 a second. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist