-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I've been following this thread for a bit but haven't really taken the time to think about the situation until now, and here's what I came up with: I would argue that the best way to describe what the accelerometer measures is that it measures the difference in net forces between the ball and the outside casing (assuming the basic model of a ball connected to a spring connected to the casing). When you're in open space with nothing around, net force on both is zero. When a rocket engine pushes the accelerometer in open space at 1g, the rocket body applies force to the casing but not the ball. Hence, the accelerometer measures the 1g difference. When the accelerometer is in freefall towards a planet pulling at 1g, the 1g gravitational force is applied to both the casing and the ball, and the accelerometer measures a difference of zero. When the accelerometer is sitting on a table in a g-field of 1g, the 1g gravitational force is applied to both the casing and the ball, but the table's normal force of 1g is applied only to the casing and not the ball. The accelerometer measures the difference of 1g. I hope this is sufficiently elegant! It definitely does eliminate the apparent distinction between gravity and "everything else" - the distinction is that gravity pulls on the ball and the casing, while other forces push or pull only on the casing. Chris Sean Breheny wrote: | Hi Russell, | | Thanks for helping to settle the dispute. | | I think it sounded like I was saying something I wasn't. I meant that | accelerometers do not measure gravity directly. You can certainly use | one to measure gravity, but only when certain other assumptions are | met. The only way it has of measuring acceleration is by compression | of some kind of spring, so the force must be transmitted THRU that | spring (which gravity itself is not but the force which acts against | gravity to hold something still IS). | | For example, if you managed to charge both the proof mass and the body | of an accelerometer electrically, and then attracted it to an | oppositely charged object, it would not read the correct acceleration | either (since it is in a "force field" rather than under the influence | of an externally applied force). In general relativity there is | probably a neat, elegant, and profound (but not simple to understand) | way to state this but I do not know it. | | Sean | -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPT 2.7.2 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHz4zriD2svb/jCb4RAkOdAJ4/liohC5bKOh19AuFefu1Hvo4hiQCbBztO EJpDuAur3gIH8tOrvlNa2hY= =aEQs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist