Bob Axtell wrote:

> I sold a programmer kit for 68HC05 a few months ago. Inside it was a
> diskette with
> a byte craft compiler (or maybe an assembler?) . It was still readable,
> no read errors.
> early 1990's, methinks.

There used to be demo compilers in many of the Motorola emulators
and programmers. Including the case where 15,000 demos were shipped
with the release software on them. No one else does stuff like that. :-)

The first C6805 was sold in 1987. It was based on a 6805 Mistral compiler
we wrote 2 or 3 years earlier

The oldest compiler we had a call last year for "Is there any updates for ..."
was sold in 1988.

C6805 had a 60K executable when it was first shipped.

w..

>
>
> --Bob A
>
> Matt Pobursky wrote:
> > On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:36:22 -0700, Bob Axtell wrote:
> >
> >> Walter, I was kidding. I know your stuff is good.
> >>
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > It was Byte Craft Ltd.'s C6805 compiler that really turned my head in the C
> > vs. asm "war" all the way back in the late 80's or very early 90's. I was
> > working on a 6805 project and the client insisted the code be written in C.
> > I was resistant and tossed out all the arguments that have run their course
> > in this thread in favor of asm. I had about 7 or 8 years of 6805 assembler
> > programming experience and would say if not an expert at least very
> > experienced.
> >
> > After I wrote my first few short programs with the C6805 compiler I was
> > astonished that the code was as compact as I'd write -- in fact much of the
> > code was translated exactly as I'd write the assembler. In some cases (and
> > this is where Walter is really correct) the compiler did things that
> > weren't immediately intuitive on inspection but in reality saved code
> > space, execution time or both.
> >
> > We write our code here almost entirely in C now, even for the tiny
> > processors. The C compilers for embedded micros have gotten so good that
> > it's difficult to find a truly bad one these days. Most are quite
> > excellent.
> >
> > Matt Pobursky
> > Maximum Performance Systems
> >
>
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