I sold a programmer kit for 68HC05 a few months ago. Inside it was a diskette with a byte craft compiler (or maybe an assembler?) . It was still readable, no read errors. early 1990's, methinks. --Bob A Matt Pobursky wrote: > On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:36:22 -0700, Bob Axtell wrote: > >> Walter, I was kidding. I know your stuff is good. >> > > Bob, > > It was Byte Craft Ltd.'s C6805 compiler that really turned my head in the C > vs. asm "war" all the way back in the late 80's or very early 90's. I was > working on a 6805 project and the client insisted the code be written in C. > I was resistant and tossed out all the arguments that have run their course > in this thread in favor of asm. I had about 7 or 8 years of 6805 assembler > programming experience and would say if not an expert at least very > experienced. > > After I wrote my first few short programs with the C6805 compiler I was > astonished that the code was as compact as I'd write -- in fact much of the > code was translated exactly as I'd write the assembler. In some cases (and > this is where Walter is really correct) the compiler did things that > weren't immediately intuitive on inspection but in reality saved code > space, execution time or both. > > We write our code here almost entirely in C now, even for the tiny > processors. The C compilers for embedded micros have gotten so good that > it's difficult to find a truly bad one these days. Most are quite > excellent. > > Matt Pobursky > Maximum Performance Systems > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist