AppTech said: >> I believe that energy costs will actually fall over time >> > > I do too. But I also believe that we may have to wait until > Lunar Helium 3 fusion power comes on line in a widespread > manner for this to happen. > > "Power so cheap it won't need to be metered". > > "It is not too much to expect that our children will enjoy > in their homes electrical energy too cheap to meter, will > know of great periodic regional famines in the world only as > matters of history, will travel effortlessly over the seas > and under them and through the air with a minimum of danger > and at great speeds, and will experience a lifespan far > longer than ours as disease yields and man comes to > understand what causes him to age." > Lewis L. Strauss > Speech to the National Association of Science Writers, New > York City September 16th, 1954. > > > Yes. This quote was made in a 3-page advertisement in Scientific American in 1955. I carried it with me for years. Alas I finally lost it. and I have been very suspicious of Scientific American ever since... The truth is that nuclear power is the MOST costly of all power generation methods. The US government has never admitted the true costs, because it would probably cause a taxpayer revolt. The original purpose of nuclear power was to provide a reliable source of plutonium from spent fuel rods. Where do you think the USA _GOT_ its warheads? After 9/11, the price went up dramatically. Now, no airplane is allowed to overfly a nuke plant. Seriously armed guards are EVERYWHERE. Visitors must have prior permission to even pickup a worker's paycheck. Unused radioactive material is stored ONSITE, an open invitation to evil-doers of all flavors. It goes on and on. But solar concentration plants have problems too. The sun doesn't shine at night, so energy must be shared between different generation methods, by moving it over the power grid. But here in the USA, our "power grid" is a joke; it is overloaded now, so no new power can move over it. Third-world countries have better power grids than we have. One workable idea is to drop the power grid entirely, and pipeline hydrogen gas (cracked by excess electricity) between cites, and burn it at night (as well as sell it to hydrogen-powered cars). But such planning takes competent political oversight, and here in the colonies, our politicians are much too stupid for the task. Here's the vision of a few Arizona engineers: 1. Establish a huge solar concentrator, with a 10-mile area of sunlight concentrators. Several turbine plants would generate electricity but only to crack water into hydrogen and oxygen immediately. The hydrogen will be pipelined to various generating plants in the USA, who will store the H2 then generate electricity locally on a 24/hr basis; in essence, the hydrogen would replace natural gas in the burners, generating no carbon dioxide. 2. The hydrogen will also be delivered to hydrogen "filling stations" across the USA for use in clean-burning cars and trucks. Hydrogen burns with 0 (ZERO) smog emissions and creates just WATER as a waste product. No more adding CO2 to the atmosphere. 3. Oxygen can be sold to vendors who will further clean it to be used in commercial or medical processes. A plant of this size can supply the needs of the entire USA from one site. No new nukes, no use of petroleum to generate electricity anymore. The headaches of the past are ended. If we don't do this, Mexico will. --Bob A > Russell > > > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist