Jinx wrote: >> Or "Why the next big advance will be thanks to gamers" ? > All those second tier game companies pale by comparison. I mean what does PS3, wii, or xbox have to compete with the stuff we have right here? That's right: "MPLAB 8.0: The Bug Hunt Continues!" And it's running on most of the machines of nearly everyone on this list. Many users put in endless hours into it, seeking to find the grail: a working bug free pic program. Soon to come: "Massive Multi-Player MPLAB: The Demon From The Dungeon of Hex" -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist