> > On Feb 29, 2008, at 10:09 PM, Herbert Graf wrote: > > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 14:58 +1300, Apptech wrote: >>>> You could use heated air from the manifold when the >>>> engine is running to >>>> the save energy otherwise used to heat the air while the >>>> engine is running. >> >>> Unfortunately when it's cold it can take a surprising >>> amount of time for >>> an idling engine to get anywhere near warm enough to put a >>> dent on >>> defrosting a windsheild. Trust me, I know, it was -25C >>> (about -13F) last >>> night here... >> >>> From startup, how long can you hold your hand on the top of >> the exhaust pipe where it leaves the manifold? (We'll let >> you not place it there until the pipe rises above 0 C to >> save you some skin, but count those seconds into the period. >> Hand off (new meaning to the term) occurs around 55C - 60C >> unless you have asbestos hands. > > Right, but what do you do when the temp of that pipe reaches 300 or > 400C > or even higher? (I'm unsure of the exact temp, I do know that the O2 > sensors need to be at about 800C to operate, and I also know from > experience that the pipes are hot enough to light transmission > fluid on > fire instantly). > > Frankly there are many MUCH easier ways to get heat then trying to > build > something that can operate safely through such a wide variation of > temperature, which is why it is almost never done. > > TTYL Not to mention the difficulty of attaching an add-on unit to said pipes. I guess you could blow air through a pipe attached to the exhaust and monitor the output temp and mix in ambient air to keep the temp at the right level. cc -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist