Byron Jeff Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 15:24 > 1) At the efficiency levels that solar converts to electricity, it takes > more energy to create solar panels than they produce. Ahhh... Huh? Could you provide a reference or supporting data for that assertion? If it takes more energy to make a solar panel than it will ever produce, wouldn't the cost of the panel exceed the value of the electricity produced? Why would anyone produce a panel if that were the case? Wouldn't the power to make it cost them more than the panel is worth? http://techref.massmind.org/techref/other/solar/case1.htm my solar panels cost $16,000. The system cost $21,000 TOTAL including professional installation. I paid $12,759 after rebates. The first year, it made $1,400 worth of electricity. The panels are warranted for 25 years so they should produce $29,400 dollars worth of electricity. And that assumes that the price of electricity stays the same; which it has not: http://techref.massmind.org/images/other/ePwrRates.GIF > 2) Solar panels have nasty stuff in them too. They cause issues in both > production and waste. Pretty much everything has nasty stuff in it, but I would curious to know exactly what they have that is any worse than roofing material. -- James. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist