(long, but bear with me) This is an actual Engineering lecture in Thermodyamics. I can testify to it because I was there. It was an undergraduate lecture and under the EE catalog I was required to take thermodynamics. The professor at Fresno State (more formally California State University, Fresno) our professor for this class was also an HVAC consultant. This was termed "Professor Bevel's Chicken Shit Lecture" and was part of many semester classes at Fresno State. One of his clients was Foster Farms Chickens (a big retail label in California). Anyway, seems like Foster Farms had a problem with their chickens. When the temperature in the chicken coops got to hot the chicken shit used to generate ammonia gas. That wasn't so bad, but the ammonia gas used to etch the cornias of the chickens and then they would go blind and not find the food to eat and not gain weight. This was not so good for the chickens and especially not good for Foster Farms. As a reference to the problem (one of many, I'm sure) is: http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/PS031 It's amazing what you can find on the internet, but I digress..... The professor was called in as a paid consultant. Well, he found that putting a sprinkler system on top of the chicken coops would wet down the tops of the roof of the chicken houses and then the water would evaporate, cool down the chicken house, the temperature would not be high enough for the chicken shit to generate excessive ammonia gas, the cornias of the chickens eyes wouldn't get etched, they wouldn't go blind, they could find their food and gain weight. This made the chickens very happy. It also made Foster Farms very happy as well. So the professor billed Foster Farms (he tried billing the chickens, but they wouldn't pay). And everybody was happy. Well, that's not the real part of the story. That was just the setup. After a couple of years, the folks at Foster Farms noticed that they didn't have to use as much water as they did originally to keep the chicken coops cool. So they called him up and asked him why. Well, turns out the water in the Fresno area (in fact most of the southern San Joaquin valley is pretty alkaline, which was sprayed on the roofs of the chicken coops (remember the chicken coops. They hold the chickens inside). The alkali of the water turned the roofs of the chicken coops white, which the white reflected more heat, and hence, they didn't have to use as much water with the white roofs. Now, here's the kicker. My instructor then billed Foster Farms *AGAIN* I learned alot about engineering from that class. Maybe not too much about thermodynamics, but a whole lot of engineering......... Cheers, Rich S. > > It would, but many of these same parts of the US are under drought and have > restrictions such as NO outdoor water use. I personally would like to see the > effect of evaporative cooling on an area-wide scale on the local weather. > > I think they do this in the southwest US, or at least as air conditioning. One > of the requirements for efficient operation is low humidity - somethign that > doesn't exist in most of the needed areas. > > > Marcel Birthelmer wrote: > > More interesting (to me) than white tiles would be evaporative > > cooling, but I don't think this is something that is really available > > for residential applications. But I'm sure the effect would be even > > more pronounced in summer than what lighter tiles could do. > > Regards, > > - Marcel > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Dr Skip wrote: > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist