> > On Feb 26, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Xiaofan Chen wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 5:46 AM, wouter van ooijen > wrote: >> [now on a much lower level of seriousness] > > But very well said. >>> Wow #1 The U.S. is not peace loving now. >> >> I agree, but that's beside this discussion. > > It is hard to define what is peace loving. Some say that > war is a way to get peace. But anyway, this is beside the > discussion. > >>> #2 You bet your life every >>> day that the area you live in is geologically stable. >> >> True, but that's my life and my bet. I dpo't want *you* to bet >> with my >> life, much less with my ofspring's life. You bet my my life with your supposedly better energy sources which I say are inferior and more life threatening. No emotions, just measurements. Your emotions versus my facts. You conjure bogeymen and I suffer for it. You bet my life by procreating. More rats on the ship mean it is more likely to sink ( Julian Simon not- withstanding ). I don't have an investment in nukes, or solar or coal or oil ( to name a few ). I just look at the statistics and place my bet. Someone who insists that a geo-stable area will explode tomorrow has no use for science. I put my chips on the table based on science. And by "science" , I do mean peer reviewed science ; free of pressure from jingo movies by Algore. I don't think it makes sense to "just do something" if I don't have enough facts. In the case of energy, I feel that there are plenty of facts. > Well said. > >>> You bet the neighbor is not going to go "postal". >> >> No problem, they don't have guns :) "Postal " has nothing to do with guns. Guns are conveniences, nothing more. "Postals" can kill with cars, bats, clubs, knives, taxes, jingoism, etc. > > And that is a big difference. That is one of the things in US > I will never understand. Not a big difference internally. Guns are used to kill very few people in the U.S. More die in auto wrecks and medically shorten lives due to misapplied use of stolen funds. Externally, U.S. imperialism wracks up big numbers via guns, sanctions, and real big guns ( bombs, etc. ) I personally used to like guns, used to like shooting at cans and squirrels. I lost interest but I am happy to live in a neighborhood where I know the people who live to the north of me are "packing". I know where to go if someone goes "postal" and attacks me. I go north. > > Xiaofan > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist