I have bought a pair of Harbor Freight steel ramps ( item # 55424-5VGA ) that will support 1000 pounds ( say the specs ). They are 6 feet by 228.6 mm. ( Ever since Russell showed me how, I now mix measurement units ) Anyway, I want to attach a beam to the bottom of each ramp that lays flat in storage and swings down in use to give each ramp more ability to support mid-span weight. I can think of two questions....... Q1 : What would be a low cost material that is strong and lightweight ? easy to cut ? Q2 : What is the optimal shape for such a beam ? a triangle ? some kind of hyperbolic thing-a-ma-jig ? Update: I wrote up a concept paper on this idea. It is located at http://oh-dog.com/ramp/concept.pdf Take a look and tell me if I have I fluffed the math or structural concepts. Thanks CC If I make a zillion money units off this idea, proceeds will go to the old - age - engineers fund. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist