I like the idea that a router is at 'war' with the internet. Instead of "DMZ" , why don't router manufacturers come up with names like KILLZONE or "packets terminated with prejudice" ? I am sure there are some great buzz phrases waiting to be invented. CC -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist