http://www.news.com/Toshiba-says-to-quit-HD-DVD/2100-1041_3-6231027.html?tag=nefd.top This might be a good thing now that Blue-Ray will win. But the other possibility is that Blue-Ray will die as well because of the high price of the player (including PS3). What is your take on this? Xiaofan -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist