> I've been shopping for new computers: CPU, Grapics and > motherboards > I noticed that lots of motherboards and heatsinks now use > copper heat pipes, > I assume those are made from solid copper! Probably not. The heat pipes are probably heat pipes - a technically meaningful term which Gargoyle knows lots about. A heat pipe has an effective thermal conductivity well in excess of solid copper. Use of a PC as a water heater is entirely viable but of questionable practical value. Imagine that you could recover 200 Watts continuous by water cooling. That's about 200/6000 =~ 3% of the capacity of an element in a typical NZ electric water heater. Gaining that 3%* requires designing the PC to accomodate this function and then connection to the household system. The optimum temperature for a cpu and a water cylinder are probably different. Better might be to add an electric caliphont to your PC with waste heat providing base heating and the higher temperature being provided by a booster heater (maybe a spare 1000 Mhz Celeron). You can then get continuous Java with your Java. Bear in mind that in Winter any removal of heat for water heating will make the room 'less warm'. If you run a heater in the PC room then the effort would be counterproductive. Russell Depends on how many showers you take. 3% x 24hours = 36% for 2 hours so if you heat one cylinder full a day there MAY be some merit in this. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist