> would this work through 60mm of cured concrete ? Sure, but water / dampness spoils performance, so you'll have to watch that. It's an easy circuit to experiment with, give it a go I found the BiMOS CA3130/3140 worked well, better than other common, and cheaper ;-( , amps of the time. It's a project I'd like to re-visit at some stage (it can just join the queue), new commercial applications have emerged > I make concreto countertops with embedded clocks > and I would like to embed sensors in them. > > See a not-very-good uTube video. > http://www.youtube.com/v/dNsjyZ4yAHc Couldn't quite make out the Hours / Minutes designation. Dual- colour LEDs ? -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist