> Heck, is this even going to be an issue at all in an > educational setting? I mean, I know about ESD, and take some > minor steps to prevent it, like trying to touch something > perhaps grounded before picking up a bare PIC. But I've yet > to ever damage a PIC chip badly enough to notice, even after > feeling shocks. I guess YMMV. I don't often see problems that could be attributed to ESD, but recently there were some. (Not with me, but with - hobbyist - customers). It is winter now and the humidity is low. > I'm sure I've done more minor damage that may > crop up later but having students have to debug the > occasional chip that mysteriously fails might not be such a > bad thing. :) These are Informatics students, they are not supposed to debug hardware. Some of them might put their PCB on a nice flat metal surface and try to operate it. The more brighter ones might remember that metal might cause shorts and use a wollen cloth instead... > Can you at least socket the PICs? I socketed the 40-pin target chip (16F877), but there is no room to socket the 18F2550 (SMD, part of the pickit2 clone). The problems I had last year (mostly disappearing firmware, including bootloader, in the 18F2550, might not be caused by ESD at all. But It might be a good idea to try something... A full enclosure is not practical (the edges of the PCB are all connectors), but something underneath the nPCB might be possible and not too expensive. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist