Culture shock, Vasile ? :) I had the same reaction the first time I went to NY. Not everybody is equipped to live in a zoo... best regards, Jack On 2/17/08, Vasile Surducan wrote: > On 2/16/08, wouter van ooijen wrote: > > I use PICs in classes. The PICs are on a PCB, but otherwise unprotected. > > The students buy the PCBs, so they can work at home. Informatics > > students can not be expected to know much about static electricity, so > > for all I know they might use it to comb their cat's hairs. I have hadd > > some pretty weird failures previous years, so it might be a good idea to > > put some form of protection on all PIC pins. My idea is a resistor to > > ground for each pin, but what value? Would 1M be sufficient, or should > > it be lower? > > > > And what about the one pins that probably won't like any load, even 1M: > > the oscillator input? > > Your luck is that both you and yours students are living in The Netherlands. > If you'll protect with 1M for ESD in the US, will be useless. (in fact > be glad you're not living at NY, believe me, I'm here from one week > and I'm anxious to leave...) > > 1M to the ground will be not good and not bad. A student will always > find a good way to fry the PIC. Here we have used series resistors and > small capacitors to ground. But you can't use those on *all* pic pins. > So, use a socket, do not protect anything and sell them hundreds of PIC's. > > Vasile > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist