On Feb 9, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Peter Todd wrote: > in the more recent Iraq war the economy lost tremendous amounts of > value Did it? djia 2000 (peak, pre-bubble-pop): 11600 djia now: 12182 I'm not saying that wars are good things, but if you're going to make blanket statements like "statistics over the period of the cold war reveal an economic black hole", you've got to be a lot more careful than people have been so far to define exactly what they mean. I recall a quote from somewhere that said something like "capitalism has two stable states: warfare and welfare." (an equally provocative statement...) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist